tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post7559657738298631767..comments2024-03-27T22:25:44.006-05:00Comments on Ennyman's Territory: Cultural LiteracyEd Newmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12703797864648081829noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post-5473332458775913242009-09-17T07:15:11.301-05:002009-09-17T07:15:11.301-05:00MDC:
Yes it is a good book... Very quickly shows u...MDC:<br />Yes it is a good book... Very quickly shows us all how little we know of all there is that can be known.<br />Thanks for the visit.<br />e.Ed Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12703797864648081829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post-79042050302622748412009-09-17T07:13:34.558-05:002009-09-17T07:13:34.558-05:00LEW: I wasn't approaching it as a liberal/cons...LEW: I wasn't approaching it as a liberal/conservative issue. I assumed that most issues have advocates on both sides even if the one side is a crackpot. I saw a few blog entries that did not count as anything more than anecdotal evidence. (Someone in Miami saying people didn't have to learn English there, for example)<br /><br />I won't defend the sentence.Ed Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12703797864648081829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post-79993461097701984592009-09-17T05:00:28.192-05:002009-09-17T05:00:28.192-05:00That article did not say what you claim it said.
...That article did not say what you claim it said. <br />The actual title of the article is, "Seven in Ten Hispanics Say Immigrants Should Learn English". There is an additional qualifier in the article: "... if they plan to stay in this country."<br />None of the Hispanics in that survey advocated that schools should stop teaching English to Hispanic kids (the same way they stopped teaching Latin).<br />Similar to your experience in San Francisco, I also met several recent immigrants to the Dallas area who couldn't speak a word of English. Sandy even had to advertise her apartment in Spanish when she left, as that area of Dallas was almost 100% Spanish-speaking. The older people were too busy working to learn a lot of English very quickly. <br />The Hispanic kids WERE learning English in school, though, and I would have been tremendously surprised if anyone would have advocated that to be stopped. The people in Sandy's neighborhood all seemed happy that their kids could help translate when needed.<br />I have heard the claim repeated before that "liberals" don't want Hispanics to be required to learn English, but have never found any substantiation for it. It's another example of the kind of thing that right-wing talk show hosts like to repeat over and over, and eventually people start believing it.LEWagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12438484007896207869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post-78361167532111242042009-09-16T22:48:48.427-05:002009-09-16T22:48:48.427-05:00Enjoyed this posting, Ed. The lists remind me of h...Enjoyed this posting, Ed. The lists remind me of how unaware I still am and need to keep learning. But at least I am a little aware of how unaware I am!M. Denise C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10326139040976625458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post-38468336241667680572009-09-16T21:56:25.458-05:002009-09-16T21:56:25.458-05:00Well, 7 in 10 say Hispanics need to learn English....Well, 7 in 10 say Hispanics need to learn English... but it's not a universal conviction. <br /><br />http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS117052+11-Mar-2008+PRN20080311<br /><br />I dunno.Ed Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12703797864648081829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post-89782147209174434652009-09-16T21:12:21.728-05:002009-09-16T21:12:21.728-05:00I will see what I can find. Good nudge to be caref...I will see what I can find. Good nudge to be careful and not overstate the facts. Not one of the workers in the San Francisco restaurant where my son worked spoke English, but this does not mean it is "Education policy"... <br /><br />e.Ed Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12703797864648081829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post-22938624938885025962009-09-16T20:26:39.078-05:002009-09-16T20:26:39.078-05:00I've read of proposals for bilingual education...I've read of proposals for bilingual education of Hispanic kids, so they can keep up in math and other subjects, while they are learning English. I've never heard it advocated that they don't need to learn English at all, though. Who is advocating this?LEWagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12438484007896207869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post-46161545015618691832009-09-16T19:18:32.496-05:002009-09-16T19:18:32.496-05:00We home schooled and Susie (my wife) either came a...We home schooled and Susie (my wife) either came across this in the curriculum or her readings and we plugged in with it. Yes, things have declined since we were young people... and to think that at one time Latin was part of a standard curriculum in public schools because it helped young people understand the roots of our language.<br />Now, there are debates about whether Hispanic kids need to learn English. <br />e.Ed Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12703797864648081829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9146215066182995239.post-89875339862037654622009-09-16T12:52:26.589-05:002009-09-16T12:52:26.589-05:00This is an important, enlightening book. I was a c...This is an important, enlightening book. I was a curriculum coordinator when the book was published, and tried to get our school district to consider some of the ideas. Unfortunately, you're right. If it didn't fit with the "test" we couldn't use it. However, several teachers really took to it and we even added "cultural literacy" information about people of color that the book lacked. If you watch Jay Leno interviewing young people and asking them questions, the need for the book is evident.Christella D. Moodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13520572530501992404noreply@blogger.com